A panel discussion was held as part of the ‘Concrete Poetry and Such’ transdisciplinary, experimental symposium at the Kunsthaus Muerz. Moderated by Roman Grabner, Barbara Imhof was in conversation with Mathias Benedek, creativity and intelligence researcher, University of Graz; Sarah Khan, freelance writer, Berlin; Nikolai Tunkowitsch, musician and violin maker, Vienna and Renate C.-Z.-Quehenberger, philosopher and artistic researcher, Vienna. 3 OCT 2021